Out of SPACE | S2, E4 ‘Artonomics’: Fame and fortune

October 2022

Artonomics, where artists discuss making art and making money.

Artists Delaine Le Bas and Katriona Beales discuss how they measure artistic success and the realities of maintaining a career, building a track record and getting paid. They also consider the impacts of motherhood, gender and cultural heritage on their practices, and whether unionising might be one key to survival for artists. Hosted by artist and curator Cathy Lomax.

A collaboration between SPACE and a-n. Recorded remotely in June 2022.

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Free legal and tax helpline for a-n members
a-n Guidance on fees and day rates for visual artists
Setting up as self employed


Cathy Lomax is a London-based artist, the founder of Transition Gallery and the editor of Arty and Garageland magazines. She is currently researching the role of makeup and artifice in the creation of the Hollywood female star image for a PhD at Queen Mary University of London. Cathy’s paintings and installations assimilate the seductive imagery of film, fame and fashion, juxtaposing it with personal narratives and the everyday. Her particular interests are femininity, masquerade and the way that popular culture is constructed, consumed and related to. In 2014 Cathy was an Abbey Painting Fellow at The British School at Rome and in 2016 she won The Contemporary British Painting Prize. Her 2017 solo exhibition The Blind Spot is profiled by Matt Price in The Anomie Review of Contemporary British Painting. Recent exhibitions include Star Bar, Broadway Cinema, Letchworth Garden City (ongoing), The Immaculate Dream, Collyer Bristow Gallery, London (2019) and Dear Christine, Vane Gallery, Newcastle (and touring) (2019).


Katriona Beales is an internationally exhibited artist whose work responds to the social implications of new technologies, mental health, and digital culture. Her interdisciplinary project ‘Are we all addicts now?’ (AWAAN) supported by The Wellcome Trust and ACE, was shown at Furtherfield, London in 2017. Between 2018 and 2020 she exhibited new commissions at the V&A, Science Gallery London, IMPAKT Netherlands (online) and a participatory green-screen installation at Autograph, London. Katriona has extensive experience as a workshop leader; an MA from Chelsea College of Arts supported by a Stanley Picker Bursary, and an artist profile on Rhizome.org. She is currently undertaking an experimental online residency at the NHS’ only Centre treating Gaming Disorders, supported by an ACE project grant; and she is one of the 3 founding members of Artists’ Union England.

Delaine Le Bas is a British artist of Romani Heritage from Worthing, Sussex. After a disrupted education she created the House of Le Bas with her husband Damian and went to a local art school before going on to do an MA in Fashion & Textiles at Saint Martins School of Art, London. Her work addresses nationhood, land, belonging, and gender, and she works across diverse media including embroidery, painting, decoupage, sculpture, installation, and performance. Delaine describes herself as travelling as a lifeist and performalist in and across the UK, Europe, South Korea, Zimbabwe, Canada and Rajasthan. Her work has been included in the Venice, Prague and Gwangju Biennales, and other art institutions internationally.